Comments on: Rolling Patterns for the Inner Core? http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/2010/06/rolling-patterns-for-the-inner-core/ Intelligent Exercise Programming for Serious Results Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:45:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: markyoung http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/2010/06/rolling-patterns-for-the-inner-core/comment-page-1/#comment-644 markyoung Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:59:18 +0000 http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/?p=1267#comment-644 Steven, If I remember correctly, McGill also believes that the multifidi are used for segmental stability as well. Could be wrong though. Steven,

If I remember correctly, McGill also believes that the multifidi are used for segmental stability as well. Could be wrong though.

]]> By: Steven Rice http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/2010/06/rolling-patterns-for-the-inner-core/comment-page-1/#comment-643 Steven Rice Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:46:09 +0000 http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/?p=1267#comment-643 As a side note, I believe that McGill considers the multifidi to be responsible for proprioception, not movement, due to their high degree of enervation and small size. As a side note, I believe that McGill considers the multifidi to be responsible for proprioception, not movement, due to their high degree of enervation and small size.

]]> By: More on the Deep Front Line http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/2010/06/rolling-patterns-for-the-inner-core/comment-page-1/#comment-642 More on the Deep Front Line Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:56:40 +0000 http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/?p=1267#comment-642 [...] an introduction, make sure you read Core Competencies. Mark Young makes a good argument about testing the roll, but personally, I think quality is more important than quantity in this case…but [...] [...] an introduction, make sure you read Core Competencies. Mark Young makes a good argument about testing the roll, but personally, I think quality is more important than quantity in this case…but [...]

]]> By: markyoung http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/2010/06/rolling-patterns-for-the-inner-core/comment-page-1/#comment-641 markyoung Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:11:45 +0000 http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/?p=1267#comment-641 Great points Patrick and Pete! Great points Patrick and Pete!

]]> By: Pete http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/2010/06/rolling-patterns-for-the-inner-core/comment-page-1/#comment-640 Pete Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:21:37 +0000 http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/?p=1267#comment-640 I think it can fit in nice with the rest of an assessment (based on the other findings and a need to look there), and I think that it can work for finding out a little about the "inner core". I would suggest that there are other what I would term more local assessments such as breathing, but I also think that the rolling is in my mind a global look at how an individual moves. One example that I would suggest is, that a person that needs to use their hip flexors to move from supine to prone in the upper body rolling is not efficient with their "inner core" they would rater reflexively use a high threshold strategy (which to my understanding means that reflexive strategy is not optimal) and "muscle" through it. I do think that this is hard to use this as a measure, this is my thought process, someone lacking the mobility to roll or an individual using a high threshold strategy is more likely to lack the mobility (reflexive timing) to use their "inner core". However I do have questions, using the strong men that McGill talks about as having good strong core, how would they fair with this test. Do they lack mobility but yet have good "inner" and "outer" core functioning? I am not sure the big boys will roll too well but I could be very wrong, there are no atlas stones at my facility :) I think it can fit in nice with the rest of an assessment (based on the other findings and a need to look there), and I think that it can work for finding out a little about the “inner core”. I would suggest that there are other what I would term more local assessments such as breathing, but I also think that the rolling is in my mind a global look at how an individual moves.

One example that I would suggest is, that a person that needs to use their hip flexors to move from supine to prone in the upper body rolling is not efficient with their “inner core” they would rater reflexively use a high threshold strategy (which to my understanding means that reflexive strategy is not optimal) and “muscle” through it.

I do think that this is hard to use this as a measure, this is my thought process, someone lacking the mobility to roll or an individual using a high threshold strategy is more likely to lack the mobility (reflexive timing) to use their “inner core”.

However I do have questions, using the strong men that McGill talks about as having good strong core, how would they fair with this test. Do they lack mobility but yet have good “inner” and “outer” core functioning? I am not sure the big boys will roll too well but I could be very wrong, there are no atlas stones at my facility :)

]]> By: Patrick Ward http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/2010/06/rolling-patterns-for-the-inner-core/comment-page-1/#comment-639 Patrick Ward Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:13:17 +0000 http://markyoungtrainingsystems.com/?p=1267#comment-639 I think of the rolling patterns as an appraisal of mobility and stability of the body. Poor mobility is going to prevent you from getting good stability and completing the roll (or you may complete it but it will look incorrect). patrick I think of the rolling patterns as an appraisal of mobility and stability of the body. Poor mobility is going to prevent you from getting good stability and completing the roll (or you may complete it but it will look incorrect).

patrick

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